To request “signed photographs” vs “signing photographs”

I was doing a Cambridge English Advanced, Use of English, Part 3 task today, when I came across the following sentence:

Though fans continued to hound her with requests for SIGN photographs
seven decades lates, letters went unanswered and requests for
interviews were seldom granted.

What I had to do is change the word SIGN appropriately.

According to the answer key, the correct formation should be signed. However, couldn’t signing work as well? From what I can see in Google Ngram, the former is preferred; however, the latter also exists as a collocation. Therefore, I was wondering if we could go for signing as well, if we were to be a bit flexible with the context.

Answer

Though fans continued to hound her with requests for ____ (SIGN) photographs

The Google Ngram that you should use is the one with the preposition “for”: for signed photographs,for signing photographs See https://books.google.com/ngrams/graph?content=for+signed+photographs%2C+for+signing+photographs&year_start=1800&year_end=2008&corpus=15&smoothing=3&share=&direct_url=t1%3B%2Cfor%20signed%20photographs%3B%2Cc0

You will note that there are no results for “for signing photographs”.

If we consider “Though fans continued to hound her with requests for SIGNING photographs”, it is difficult to see what function “SIGNING” performs. It is not a participle or a gerund acting as a adjective as that would mean “photographs that are associated in some way with the action of signing”.

You may object and say “Well, we can say ‘This is the pen for signing the photograph’.”, but here “for” introduces an instrumental purpose. (Compare, “This is a walking stick.”)

But “fans continued to hound her with requests for _____ (SIGN) photographs” is a request for an object, i.e. photographs (of her) that were signed (by her); it is not the purpose of the object.

You should realise that preposition + substantive = modifier, and that “for ______ (SIGN) photographs” must be modifier, and thus that ” ______ (SIGN) photographs” must be a substantive.

The constructions are

  1. This is a request to do an action, which requires an infinitive: “I requested her to sign the photograph.”

  2. This is a request for something, which requires a substantive. “This is a request for a signed photograph.” You will know that a substantive can be a noun phrase and that in your example “signed photographs” is a noun phrase.

We need to ask what it was that the fans did.

They hounded her.

How did they hound her?

They hounded her with requests – “with requests” = preposition + substantive = modifier (here it is adverbial)

What sort of requests?

They hounded her with requests for photographs.

What sort of photographs?

They hounded her with requests for signed photographs.Signed is an adjective. “signed photographs” is a noun phrase” Noun phrases are substantives.

“for signed photographs” = preposition + substantive = modifier (here it is adjectival). And, all together, {with [requests for signed photos]. } is adverbial.

They did not request her “to sign photos”, they requested an item – a signed photograph, i.e. a photograph (of her) that had been signed (by her).

They did not request that she do something, i.e. sign some photographs, and so “signing” (a participle or gerund that indicates an action) must be wrong.

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