Was the “Ye Olde Shoppe” ever used or is it just an ancient-looking construct of modern times?

Surely, if I were the owner of a shop selling archery goods and wanted to portray my shop as some kind of old-fashioned, high-quality traditional outlet, I might be tempted to call it “Ye Olde Archery Shoppe”. This is a deliberate use of archaic spellings (and the “ye” pronoun) for branding purposes.

My question is about the plausibility of this expression as an actual Old English sentence. Beyond the use of archaic spelling of each word, is there any point in time were this kind of shop name would have been plausibly used?

Answer

Per the Middle English Dictionary, the answer is ‘yes’.

Ye forsaides … John And Robert schall make a brigge of stane oure ye water of Swalle atte Catrik, be twix ye olde stane brigge and ye Newbrigge of tree, quilke forsaide brygge with ye grace of God sall be mad Sufficiant and workmanly in masoncraft.
(1421) Indent.Catterick in Archaeol.J.7

I’d translate this as

The aforesaid … John and Robert shall make a bridge of stone over the water of [Swalle] at the Catterick, between the old stone bridge and the new bridge of wood, which aforesaid bridge with the grace of God shall be made sufficient and workmanly in masoncraft.

-so while it’s clear that the y in “Ye” is a form of th/thorn, it’s also clear that transcribing it as a y is not necessarily a mistake.

Here’s another quote that clearly shows that “y” was used as a way to write “th”:

It is ordeynede yat alle ye bretheren and sisteren..shul comen to-geder..on ye day of seynt Katerine
1389 Nrf.Gild Ret. 19

(Notice that it uses ‘y’ for writing that as well as for the.)


The MED entry for shop(pe includes the spelling shoppe as a variant header form. Similarly, the entry for old(e includes the spelling olde as a standard variant, among an astonishing variety of spellings.

Both words have the desired meanings — old “3.(a) Of things: long in existence or in use”; shop “A room or building used as a place of business by a victualer, craftsman, etc.”

Thus, although I didn’t find the actual phrase “the old shop” (in any spelling) in the quotes, it fully conforms with the usage patterns I can see. I think the spelling “ye olde shoppe” would be unremarkable in a Middle English context.


Edit: I just noticed that you call it the “ye” pronoun. It’s not. As the quote above shows, this is a variant spelling of the (as in, the definite article), and should be pronounced as the. (The MED lists it in the variant forms as “(chiefly N & NM) ye”, but I have been unable to determine what the heck N and NM are abbreviations of.)

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